Sunday, December 16, 2012

Day 290: Done! Done! Done!




Credit Score: 652

It’s officially “this time next week” and we’re done! We moved in to an apartment yesterday and the cat seems happy about having new windows to look out. We had a very eventful week though.

Tuesday evening when I got home, three notes were taped to my door. THIS PROPERTY IS NOW OWNED BY FANNIE MAE – one in English, one in Spanish – and a third note with the contact information of a real estate agent representing Fannie Mae. That means we’re officially done, our foreclosure ended in 2012, and we won’t owe taxes! The legal paperwork actually offered us two options. 1, you could stay in your home and work out a rental agreement with the real estate agent and new management company; or 2, you could move out. If you move out and leave the place clean and undamaged, Fannie Mae would pay some “relocation assistance.” That sounded very intriguing so I contacted the real estate agent and found out that I could get $3000! Woohoo! That'll be a nice addition to our down payment savings.

A guy met us in the condo on Friday so we could sign the agreement. It required all the appliances stay, the place to be in “broom-swept condition,” to have no debts or obligations left over, and we would release Fannie Mae of all liability or future law suits we might file against them. All of that sounded great to me except that I wasn’t sure the December HOA dues I hadn’t yet paid would fulfill the obligation about “no debts.” Since $3000 is a lot more than the $300 HOA dues, I decided to just pay the HOA, whether or not I was legally obligated to. We’ll meet the guy again later this week at the condo so he can verify that we’ve emptied the place, cleaned it, and vacated. Then we’ll hand over the keys and he’ll hand us a fat check. :) Both of those will be great Christmas presents.

My credit report doesn’t yet show the foreclosure, but it should only be a matter of days. The bank has generally been reporting me between the 14th and 19th of each month. I’m interested to see if my score plunges again, or just stays level. I imagine after the foreclosure shows up on my report, my score won’t keep dropping anymore – just a slow, steady climb back up. And in 2019, it’ll be wiped off my report and all will be forgotten. 

I’m planning one more post, to let you know the final outcome of my credit score in a couple weeks. But after that, that’s all I had planned to cover in the blog. Perhaps I’ll record more next year when we’re looking at houses and loans since there’s so much to learn about the new way of doing things. We’ll see. Either way, thank you all for joining me on my very dramatic 2012.  Good luck with your own housing situations; let me know if I can help at all but I’m hardly an expert. I learned everything from Google and a lawyer, and now have one point of data on how these things work. :) 

Happy holidays. Happy new year. And good luck to all of us with the fiscal cliff!

Sunday, December 9, 2012

Day 283: Auctioned!



Credit Score: 652

Paper: 38
Email: 3
Voicemail: 48

My auction happened Friday! I took a couple hours off work so I could go see it happen and verify for myself that it wasn’t postponed. They said I couldn’t take any photos or video, but I had been planning to show you what happened.

The auction took place exactly where and when the notice said it would. The address turned out to be the trustee’s office building, with the auction happening in their parking garage. Right at 10am, a guy started reading off a bunch of regulations, probably about the rules of bidding, consequences, and ownership rules, but he was waaay too quiet to actually be heard. The forty or so people there had obviously heard it all before so didn’t bother to stop their conversations.

There were three auctioneers with all the auctions of the day split up alphabetically by owners’ last name. Mine turned out to be third on the list for one of the auctioneers. He read someone’s address, read the minimum bid, asked for any bidders, nobody answered, he read the next address. He read my address, read off that the minimum bid was the value of my loan plus some extra (late fees or lawyer fees or interest?) for a total of $173k. There was a booklet that everyone got and it said my appraised value was at $93k.  With that kind of ratio, of course nobody bid. It would’ve just stuck them in exactly the same position I am, of being (apparently) $80,000 underwater. 

I think that appraisal is a really high. Yes, there are three units for sale in my complex  and their list prices are between 95,000 and 128,000 but the only 2-bedroom units that have actually sold in recent records were both last month with one at 65,000 and one at 65,400. Another is pending at 66,000, and a fourth is pending short sale at 88,000 but has been very nicely remodeled (dunno if it’s 22,000 nice, but that’s the buyer’s problem). 

I am oddly upset that the appraisal is so skewed, but shouldn’t be. I wanted the numbers to actually reflect my situation. I am not 80,000 underwater, I am solidly 108,000 underwater. That’s what I’ve been living with for a year and it was belittled to less than 75% of my real burden. If I had to pay taxes on that difference though, I would definitely have wanted a higher appraisal so that less of the loan would have been forgiven. Less forgiven, less taxable income, less taxes. 

Anyway, they read my name, address, minimum bid, asked for bidders, paused, read the next name and address. There was nothing conclusive afterwards so that was rather disappointing. There were still a lot of homes for auction, and mine was done by 10:20, so I left. Maybe something else happened once they were all done, but I decided I’d rather get back to the office and keep going with my day. It didn’t really end up being worth my time to have attended, especially since I came away with zero evidence that it actually happened, but at least I proved to myself that the auction took place and was not delayed. The trustee had the right to delay it up until the moment it was auctioned, so there was always the chance it wouldn’t happen that day.

The auction wasn’t my only adventure since my last post though. I notified the HOA board that we were leaving and that we would only own the condo for 7 of the 31 days this month, so proposed that I wouldn’t pay them the December HOA dues. They could get them from the new owner since they’d own it for three times longer than I did that month. Before giving them that proposal, I did check the rules of the association, and looked for anything that said “HOA dues are the responsibility of whomever owns the unit on the 1st" or something. I didn’t see anything like that though. Just that a late fee would be assessed on the 15th – after I no longer own it.

Their first response was that if we weren’t paying the dues, we couldn’t use Cory’s parking space anymore since it’s rented and paid for with the dues. Fine. He can park on the street. Their second response was “you have to pay your dues” which isn’t exactly helpful. They started throwing out numbers and making themselves sound like they knew nothing about how foreclosures work. Before this started, I wouldn’t have known anything either, but with how many foreclosures and sales they must have experienced in the last few years, how can they (and the management company) not know the rules of who pays dues the month that ownership changes hands?

I asked our lawyer again because we had heard from him back in our February meeting that some number of months of HOA dues can be tied to the sale and become the responsibility of the new owner - they put a lien on the property. When I asked for more clarification from him this week though, after the HOA started trying to bully me in to paying, he said it was actually dependent on the year the condos were built. Any condos “built” (I don’t know if that means permitted, ground was broken, last one was completed, or first one was sold, but does not mean any of those if it was first constructed as apartments and later converted to condos  - then the conversion date is what matters) any condos built after July 1, 1990 have the authority to put the lien on the property and get dues from the new owners. Before that, they don’t have that authority so it’d mean they come after me for any missing dues. I’ve no idea whether my building was built before or after July 1, but the paperwork all says 1990 – the least convenient year possible. I told the HOA all that information, suggested they find out when exactly these officially became condos, and that I’d be willing to pay 22% of the month’s dues for the time I actually own the unit, I’d keep using the parking space, and that if I could prove to them before the late fee that I no longer own the place, I wouldn’t be liable for the remainder.

They haven’t answered me since that proposal, so I haven’t paid yet and Cory’s still using the parking space. He’d rather we just pay the dues so that it’s not hanging over our heads, but our dues are $330/month. That’s a lot of money, and if I don’t have to spend it, I don’t want to. I hope to get an official document posted on our door soon, saying that ownership officially transferred. Maybe Monday - first business day since the sale? Then I can show that to the board, prove I don’t own the place, and won't have to pay the dues. Maybe we’ll still pay the 22%.

We’re moving out in a week though! This time next week, we’ll be in an apartment. Hopefully we’ll have no mortgage debt, no HOA board still bullying us for money, no HOA board EVER again, and no worries about a huge tax burden looming over us. We’ll be closer to Cory’s work, which will make him much happier, and we’ll be working towards saving enough for a 20% down payment on a home. The goal is still to buy in June, and if we’re able to save our average amount every month, we can probably make it. The question will be whether we can qualify for a loan. 

The news keeps telling us that qualifying for a mortgage is still a huge hill to climb – high credit score, clean credit history, large down payment, and a low percentage of your income going towards the mortgage. If we just use Cory’s credit and income, we meet the first three, but for the loan size we’d want, it’s close to 50% of his income. If we use both of our credits and incomes, we only meet the down payment and percentage requirements. I’ll be very disappointed if we can’t buy a home next year, but getting out from under $100,000 of debt was necessary for our future. Maybe that future doesn’t include home ownership again soon, but at least it includes control of our own money, freedom to change our living situation, and a lot less worry.